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Chromatic Hungarian

Postby Aislingean » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:29 am

I was browsing Eb** and came across an interesting chromatic dulcimer otherwise known as a Hungarian citera zither
I just won the auction and now need to collect info about citera s that I can understand
[Hungarian is not a language that is easily translated]
Seems to be a 'C' tuned instrument but what do I do with all those other strings?
Seems to be set up like a short scale dulcimer with the black notes on the second fingerboard
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Re: Chromatic Hungarian

Postby dholeton » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:57 pm

The current post on the citera has some information on tuning the strings that are over frets. I think the drone strings are probably intended to be tuned to C or G.

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Re: Chromatic Hungarian

Postby Ken Bloom » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:56 am

Hi Dave,

The melody courses on the citereqa are tuned to G. The full length drone strings are tuned C, G, C. The shorter drones [itch can be easily determined by checking out what fret the bridge of each course is closest to. Usual tunings for these shorter drones are either C, G, C or C, E, G. If the scale length of your instrument is much shorter, then your instrument should be tuned higher. They have ensembles of citeras that consist of standard, bass and two higher pitched versions. You can find videos on Youtube. Good luck.

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Re: Chromatic Hungarian

Postby Ken Bloom » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:09 am

I just looked at the photo of your instrument. I would tune the short drones C,E, G or tune the E to Eb if you're doing a minor or model tune.

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Re: Chromatic Hungarian

Postby Aislingean » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:05 pm

Thanks for the heads up!
I have now taken pictures of the citera and put them on flickr and given the link in the other thread
The original Hungarian spec sheet gives suggested tunings which make no sense to me
Here is the flickr link ....
https://www.flickr.com/gp/99248490@N05/71xg25
Looks like I will have to spend a little time with this one
Cheers
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Re: Chromatic Hungarian

Postby Ken Bloom » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:25 pm

Hi Dave,

The sheet indicates tuning to G, so your melody strings get tuned to D and the shorter strings are tuned to a G chord, G, B, and D. In Germany and Hungary, h indicates B natural where b is Bb. I hope this makes some sense.

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Re: Chromatic Hungarian

Postby Aislingean » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:40 pm

Ken Bloom wrote:Hi Dave,

The sheet indicates tuning to G, so your melody strings get tuned to D and the shorter strings are tuned to a G chord, G, B, and D. In Germany and Hungary, h indicates B natural where b is Bb. I hope this makes some sense.

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Thank you!
I can now make some progress; I think.
Inspection suggests that the original owner tried to replace the second resonant string without knowing how and gave up, packed the thing away and threw a packet of desiccant in the box It is in virgin unplayed condition
[It has remained unplayed for around 35 years]
Inexpensive but pretty factory made instrument produced in a government facility that was the largest in Hungary.
It was closed in 2004
There is room for improvement in string positioning with some replacement wire nuts and grooves in the bridge bar but I may just leave it as found 'warts n all'
Cheers Dave
I today have learned that h is a semitone below c which is the equivalent of b in western terms
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