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Re: Hungarian Citera

Postby DulcitTones » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:23 pm

Well, got my brain working... so I did up a quick sketch. The one support on the right would be arched to allow movement of the sound.

Still thinking but thought I would post this...
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Re: Hungarian Citera

Postby Ken Bloom » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:01 pm

Looks good. The bulged side is unecessary for sound but looks nice. Most citeras are straight sided.

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Re: Hungarian Citera

Postby Aislingean » Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:45 pm

Does anyone know what the numbers on commercial string packages refer to
There are apparently a couple of packets in the box with the instrument I have just bought numbered 8 and 10
and I have seen others on the internet numbered up to 24

I would have imagined that gauge would be factor that determined position and that they would come in sets however the
Citerahúr range seem to be sold individually based on numbers
As you may see from this I am very new and ignorant but will spend a lot of time lurking until my knowledge improves
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Re: Hungarian Citera

Postby DulcitTones » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:36 pm

And it looks like some (maybe not all?) citeras have a back to them... I am attaching some photos that I could find where they were photographed against a colored background - a background that would show through the soundholes if there were no back... and all such photos show that there is indeed a back on them.
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Re: Hungarian Citera

Postby DulcitTones » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:38 pm

And one more...
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Re: Hungarian Citera

Postby Ken Bloom » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:01 pm

All the ones I've actually seen were in the older style or made by makers who work in that way. There is no reason not to put a back on it. For me, I usually follow traditional models unless I can think of a good reason not to. I figure they've been doing it one way for a long time and probably know a few things. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't go another direction if I had a good reason. When I used to build Ukrainians banduras, I noticed that the concert kantele I had had a spruce back and top and sounded amazing so I thought this might work well on the bandura so I built a few. Lo and behold, it worked.The citera I will build will not have a back on it. Just my 2p.

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Re: Hungarian Citera

Postby DulcitTones » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:31 pm

Ken:

Your 2p is worth more than the contents of my whole wallet!

Thank you!
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Re: Hungarian Citera

Postby Aislingean » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:35 pm

I found this PDF file of historic models and makers whilst researching mine
Loads of info all in Hungarian and many fascinating pictures
So far I have learned that there are dozens of current makers and very few standards.
Many have backs and many do not and it seems this has always been the case
http://csemadok.sk/files/2013/07/gyia-4 ... citera.pdf

Have a look through this and enjoy and then search citera készítő
which will lead to many current makers and performers
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P.S. anyone finding makers that add carved rosebuds as decorations please let me know
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Re: Hungarian Citera

Postby DulcitTones » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:58 pm

That pdf is an amazing resource! A great contribution to this discussion - and there is no way I would have found it myself... thank you!
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Re: Hungarian Citera

Postby DulcitTones » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:41 pm

The search term "citera készítő" netted this very informative photo:
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Re: Hungarian Citera

Postby DulcitTones » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:50 pm

And another construction "photo":
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Re: Hungarian Citera

Postby dholeton » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:03 pm

I saved the pdf to my hard drive and then when I tried to upload it I found it too large as a single file for uploading in this post. It's over 3 Mb, which is the maximum file size for upload here. I saved it in multiple files and uploaded the entire document. Links are good on the day that they work, but saving the pdf files here will make them always available some day in the future in case the link becomes inactive.

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